Por que as informações na área da saúde são tão conflitantes? Existe algum lugar em que a informação sobre saúde é confiável? O que devo considerar ao deparar com alguma novidade que parece mágica? Como o sistema de saúde é afetado por essas questões? Essas e outras perguntas nortearam o curso Saúde Baseada em Evidências. Além dessas reflexões, são apontados aspectos sobre o desenvolvimento de pesquisas médicas que fornecem subsídios para uma interpretação mais apurada dos fatos. Este curso reflete a experiência dos tutores no ensino desses tópicos para diversos públicos e soma-se a outras estratégias desenvolvidas no Brasil na área.
Entrevista com Barbara Oakley
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Tais Freire GalvaoProfessora Doutora
Faculdade de Ciências Farmacêuticas, Universidade Estadual de Campinas
Ivan Ricardo ZimmermannAnalista de Políticas Sociais, MBA, PhD
Ministério da Saúde
Everton Nunes da SilvaProfessor Adjunto II
Faculdade de Ceilândia, Universidade de Brasília
Marcus Tolentino SilvaProfessor Adjunto da Universidade Federal do Amazonas e da Universidade de Sorocaba
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I am talking now to Barbara Oakley, she's
a professor of engineering at Oakland University in Rochester, Michigan, United
States and a Distinguished Scholar at
McMaster University, Canada. Barb, can you please introduce yourself for our learners?
Oh. I'm Barbara Oakley and it's a pleasure to be with you. And you're doing
some great work, so we will have some fun
speaking about it today.
In your MOOC “learning how to learn” and your book “A mind for numbers”
you teach us how to learn difficult subjects.
For our learners that still are unaware of your fantastic tips, what advices you would give to them?
Oh, well, the best advice would be to watch the Massive Open
Online Course, because there's lots of information in it, and it's hard to
compress it into like just a few seconds but I think one of the most important
things is that you can learn way more than you think you can learn. So for
example, for me, I grew up absolutely hating math and science so I flunked my
way through elementary middle and high school math and science and terrible at
them and then I got out into the real world and I joined the army I was a
linguist I learned Russian, and when I was 26 and I was getting to leave the
military I discovered that suddenly nobody was interested in having me work
for them because I didn't have a marketable skill so I decided to try and
see if I could change my brain and learn something that involved math and science
I didn't really think I could do it and I did! I mean, it's amazing!
I'm now a professor of engineering. So, what, this really means is that if you use
some of the right learning techniques, you can learn a lot! Nobody is
predisposed because they have - or don't have - the math gene or something like
that you can, no matter, you may learn some things more slowly than other
people but you can still learn it and in fact if you learn more slowly sometimes
you can learn it much more solidly, a lot better. So, you're on a great career path
and I'm really excited for you in this program.
Great! So, do you believe distance education is a feasible way to excel in a new area?
Could you share with us your thoughts and tips?
Absolutely! I think that online learning is a great new way of learning that expands possibilities for
ordinary people - like you and me - that we can learn something new with great
teachers and we've never had this kind of opportunity before when I was a young
person, I had to go back to the university at age 26 and and give up
every aspect of my life every other aspect for like five years to try and
retrain my brain to become an engineer. Nowadays, you don't have to make those
kinds of horrible sacrifices you can still be raising a family, and have a
career and you can be working towards and retraining yourself, using these
really good online videos and the real fact of the matter is that half of all
professors are below average as teachers except online online you can find some
of the world's greatest teaching so you are you're in luck
you're in a new world now where online materials - great online materials - are
available and you really want to take advantage of it
Great. The use of technologies, such as the computer, the smartphone...
increase our confidence in doing multiple tasks at the same time.
Do you believe we are multitask? Can we study and check the email, the WhatsApp, the Facebook?
Can we do multiple things at once? No! don't do that! the reason is
because can you look at one thing and then look at another thing and then go
back to the first thing? Absolutely you could do that. You can study one thing,
and then switch your attention and come back, but every time you do that it is a
burden on your working memory it makes things harder for you if you
set a period of time, like 25 minutes - this is called the Pomodoro Technique - so
turned off everything else, so you have no distractions from your computer or
your cell phone or anything like that. That's how you get started doing this
Pomodoro Technique and so, no distractions, set a timer for 25 minutes,
work, without distraction, for 25 minutes. So if you catch your mind wondering, just
bring it back, then keep working. And then when you're done, reward yourself.
So, listen to a favorite song, you know, go out do a little dance, talked to
friends, go on Facebook... Whatever makes you happy a little bit of reward for
five or ten minutes if you work in this fashion while you're working with total
focus and then you rest total focus and then you rest you will get so much more
done than if you're working on this and then looking at dad and going back and
forth which is not an optimal way to work at all if you try this Pomodoro
Technique of 25 minutes and then a little relaxing break you'll find that
it works wonders for you.
It does work. It changed my life, and it was in your
learning how to learn course that I got to learn and use this every day in
my life. So, thank you, again for this!
Your experience of changing from a career in the army and then becoming a
professor shows us that those challenges are possible. As you know, our course is
about evidence-based healthcare which can be more difficult for people that
are not a student or a professional in this area. What would you suggest for our
learners that are outsiders, which are more than welcome in our
massive online open course?
A several things. First, I think it's important for
you to realize that the kinds of things that you will be learning in this course
could benefit you for the rest of your life, so -and not just you - your family,
your parentes, your children, your relatives, because you will be getting
insights into healthcare issues that will allow you to make important very
good decisions about your health. So, take advantage of this marvelous
opportunity, because so often times people will make poor healthcare
decisions simply because they haven't gotten good
education about related sorts of issues. So, another thing is try to space out
your learning so in other words don't sit there go: "Oh, every Saturday I'm going
to cram in the whole course". Try and do maybe 20 minutes a day each day
something like that. Try to avoid putting everything in one day. But instead, try to
do a little bit every day and that will help you to grow those neural structures
of learning in a better way.
Yeah and, doing the chunks, right?!
That's right, that's right. So, great patterns
And your final thoughts for your students.
I think you're so lucky to be able to have a great instructor and some
wonderful insights into into health issues that will benefit you and
everyone you know. So, best of luck in this whole learning journey!
Okay! That's Barbara Oakley! Thank you very much for your attention
and for your nice words and kind attention... And, we see you! Bye bye!
Bye bye!
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