Black Hawk Down - The Website

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Film, images & historical interpretation in the 20th century for those who have a general interest in history that draws on photojournalism as primary evidence, and films based on historical events.

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Dr Emmett Sullivan
Senior Tutor
History Department, Royal Holloway, University of London

So, in working backwards and therefore in a nonlinear progression the film comes

from the book. And the book is Black Hawk Down.

In this case, it's a a tidying version so that lovely man, Josh Harnett, whose name

I can barely say, is on the cover of this as well.

That's published in 1999. We have before that the publication of

Mark Bowden's investigative journalism within the context of the Philadelphia

Enquirer. Now You will be used to just going to the

website and you will be expecting there to be sidebars and hot links and a whole

range of things. I find what the Philadelphia Inquirer and

Mark Bowden has done with those articles, in terms of a site which is now kept

going from I think the articles were published in around about 1997.

Very interesting. Because it has in a sort of a microcosm

created its own archival reference point. Now I'm going to go through some of the

pages in this site. I already encouraged you to go a little

earlier to go and look at it to give you a familiarization of the topic.

but let's just, I know I used the word reflect and reference just far too much

in this but let's just go and reflect on what we've seen here and reference to the

material. Now just going back through these, the

first thing to bear in mind is this is right in and it is a reflection back, as

I said, on what happened. Was it a success, how do we actually

consider it? I find this very interesting, as I said,

because at the very top, one of the things we have here is what is, a hotlink

to the garrison letter. This is Garrison's reflection immediately

after the event. He's considering the information that he

had that led him to make the decision to commit.

And then he's reflecting back on the, the factors that did not work so well.

I mean, 18 men dead I don't mean to underplay this.

It's primary evidence. This is archival evidence that I wouldn't

expect to be seeing so readily after the event.

So, we've already got just a little bit of a transition here from a website,

newspaper articles. And suddenly it is, as I said, as a microcosm

of an archive of the information around it, around that particular

engagement shall we say. Now I just want to take you back through

one or two of the other pages. I really want you to explore this in full

detail and, and consider this in a more rounded way.

how much if you were going to write an essay on this.

How much would you base on exclusively on the source we wouldn't advocate that.

But the fact that it branches out. I use the term augmentment I think is

quit an important consideration in this regard.

One of the things that's been added here. Are clips from radio transmissions and

interviews for those involved at the time.

So, we're moving away from the printed text, your interaction with a statement

that is available all the time, compared to something which might be transient.

Thankfully, here it had been recorded. And now you have access to it.

Some of it is very difficult to hear. I'm not at this point going to try and

play any of it because let's face it, we're having to deal with London buses

behind us. But again, you get a feeling of immediacy

of the events. And that again can change your

perspective on what's going on. Now, let's go and look at one or two of

the other pages on this particular site and again consider how you might use

these coming back and reviewing what's going on.

Again I'm not going to play these now. But you have the video clips not links

YouTube but in some cases the original Pentagon footage which has been released

and linked to this page. If you go down here, it starts to deal

with testimony from a number of different sources and it is, coming up, with a

different perspectives as the events go through.

Now you can watch these continuously or you can cross reference them with the

individual chapters. And it might be worth you doing that just

in terms of having read the text. Then taking a step back, and saying, and

does that make more sense to me, hearing either contemporaneously?

Or reflecting on it in terms of interviews after the event, what the

people are directly involved with doing. I made the point a little bit earlier to

the, the excellent film crew who are having to put up with me.

Hi, guys. that Royal Holloway, we, in twentieth

Century history deal with a, a number of quite challenging events, and of course,

one of them is the Holocaust. Testimony , oral history, et cetera is

a very important way to try and contextualize what was a devastating part

of Western culture. So, the fact that you have access to

audio and video in this site I think is, is something that, again expands your

experience. We're talking about visual images having

impact and principally in terms of photographs.

Now, you have a, a number of multimedia ways of putting, ideas together.

If you go back to the main index page you will see that it is set out chapter by

chapter, I linked up a little bit earlier to the analysis, but as we go through

this there is the branching across. You get the text, you get the hot links

in there. So you can make a decision on how you

actually interact with the information that's given.

You can make a decision as to which pieces appeal to you most and concentrate

on them. It is not just simply the book.

Very good book, know this. Finally just to give you some idea of the

geography of what's going on. there are number of maps which highlights

how, the troops were intended to extract Aidid's the lieutenants from around the

Olympic hotel site. And then what the plans were to defend

and. extract the helicopter crews in

particular. So while they're very stylized it gives

you a, a more realistic view or at least a stylized view that you can relate to as

to the environment these men were working in.

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